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Two things I'd like to see in my lifetime

First thing: A fast forward way of demonstrating evolution and creating life. One possible way is to fill a huge transparent cyclinder with Hydrogen, close the lid and press a button. After one hour we see the results of millions of years of evolution. It could be some life form similar to something on earth or some completely alien life form.

Actually, if someone could do a computer simulation of evolution, that would also be very nice, though it won't please as much as seeing it happen live.

Second thing: No countries. There is just one world and we are all world citizens.

P.S: As a bonus, I'd like to see us banish God from our lives and live in the age of reason. But I don't think I can see that in my lifetime.

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Main basis for beleving in existence of god comes from the fact that he is the one who is responsible for creating first form of any creature and everything else sarrounding it.So probably if your first wish becomes a reality, the bonus part will tag along as the first point will disproves the basis of belief in GOD.

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Atheism, though wrong, is a more intellictually defendable positiont than agnosticism, so in one sense you are seeing improvement. If the common tennat of most religions is right i.e. our relationship with God while we are on Earth determines our external experience after this life, then God is infinitely important. If, on the other hand, God does not exsit, then all religion is false and a big waste of time. The position that is not defendable is agnosticism which by deduction concludes that matters of God are mildly important. Congratulations on this small step in your understanding! It is a step backwards, but at least you are moving...

For someone who claims to not believe in God, I wonder where your sense of right and wrong comes from and what is driving you to take up this cause of evangelising atheism??? Some of the most fanatical and religions people I know are atheists who feel compelled to spread their beliefs.

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The sense of right or wrong comes from evolution -- those that are good for survival are generally right and wrong otherwise. In fact, religion is one place from where the sense of right or wrong does not come. There are a zillion examples where our morality has changed inspite of religion -- Sati, widow remarriage, birth control, gay marriages, surgery and recently cloning and stem cell research.

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The sense of right or wrong comes from evolution -- those that are good for survival are generally right and wrong otherwise.

By this logic, the US should just nuke every other country on the planet today and guarantee our culture survives. That would be the right thing to do. And don't give me some silly argument about how the West is dependent on other parts of the world for our survival.

If evolution is the basis of right and wrong, then why is it that only humans have a sense of right and wrong? Every other life form on the earth has also experienced evolution, yet we are the only ones that have figured out right and wrong?

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yet we are the only ones that have figured out right and wrong?

I don't think we've figured out right and wrong. They keep changing with time and point of view. At some point, things like slavery, sati were right . Gay marriages, abortion are still wrong by most religions. The point I'm trying to m ake is in response to your question about where the sense of right or wrong comes from. I definitely doesn't come from religion. For more articulate explanations, I recommend you books such as 'God Delusion' and 'Moral Animal'. The whole branch of evolutionary psychology is devoted to this topic.

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"I don't think we've figured out right and wrong"

It means you accept that your knowledge is defective and incomplete. So, whatever results you derive from your knowledge would obviously be incomplete and defective. This would never lead us to the understanding of the defectless and the complete.

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When I said 'We', I include all the human beings. So, as humans we haven't figured out what is right or wrong. It is possible that this whole concept of right or wrong is complete non-sense.

Regarding your point, just because human understanding is defective, does not mean there is something out there that is complete and defectless. That is your assumption, and evidence is required to back that claim.

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Faith is essential. You too have faith in so many things. Darvin has never created a bacteria and made it evolve till it became man. Just because some concepts of his appealed to your intelligence, you had faith over him. When we eat, we don't first check if the food has poison. We have faith that the food has no poison. Similarly when we walk we have faith that earth will not swallow us. When we have faith on so many things and people why not have faith on a saint who has seen God. Even you can see God if you want, but you need to develop faith for that. You need to associate with those who have seen God, then only thats possible. Till you are away from such people you will never get that faith.

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You write very well.

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Thanks for your encouraging words, Lucinda.

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